{"id":3731,"date":"2025-10-17T10:53:31","date_gmt":"2025-10-17T08:53:31","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/diagzone.org\/?p=3731"},"modified":"2025-10-17T10:53:33","modified_gmt":"2025-10-17T08:53:33","slug":"j1708-j1587-communication-protocols-for-older-heavy-duty-vehicles-and-construction-machinery","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/diagzone.org\/tr\/j1708-j1587-communication-protocols-for-older-heavy-duty-vehicles-and-construction-machinery\/","title":{"rendered":"J1708 \/ J1587: Eski nesil a\u011f\u0131r ticari ara\u00e7lar ve i\u015f makineleri i\u00e7in ileti\u015fim protokolleri"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>SAE J1708 ve SAE J1587, modern CAN tabanl\u0131 sistemlerin (J1939) kullan\u0131lmaya ba\u015flanmas\u0131ndan \u00f6nce \u00fcretilmi\u015f a\u011f\u0131r ticari ara\u00e7lar ve i\u015f makineleri i\u00e7in tasarlanm\u0131\u015f eski nesil ileti\u015fim protokolleridir. G\u00fcn\u00fcm\u00fczde k\u0131smen eski say\u0131lmalar\u0131na ra\u011fmen, h\u00e2len kullan\u0131mda olan \u00e7ok say\u0131da eski ara\u00e7 bulunmas\u0131 nedeniyle bir\u00e7ok te\u015fhis ve servis uygulamas\u0131nda yayg\u0131n olarak kullan\u0131lmaktad\u0131r.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>J1708 ve J1587 Nas\u0131l \u00c7al\u0131\u015f\u0131r<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li class=\" translation-block\"><strong>J1708<\/strong>, <em>fiziksel ileti\u015fim katman\u0131n\u0131<\/em> tan\u0131mlar \u2014 yani verilerin arac\u0131n ECU\u2019lar\u0131 (Electronic Control Units) aras\u0131nda nas\u0131l iletildi\u011fini belirler. RS-485 standard\u0131n\u0131 kullan\u0131r ve veri iletim h\u0131z\u0131 <strong>saniyede 9.600 bit<\/strong>tir.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li class=\" translation-block\"><strong>J1587<\/strong>, <em>veri ba\u011flant\u0131 ve uygulama katmanlar\u0131n\u0131<\/em> tan\u0131mlar \u2014 yani mesajlar\u0131n nas\u0131l kodland\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 ve yorumland\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131, buna <em>Te\u015fhis Ar\u0131za Kodlar\u0131 (DTC)<\/em> da d\u00e2hildir.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p>Birlikte, a\u011f\u0131r ticari ara\u00e7larda motor, \u015fanz\u0131man, ABS ve di\u011fer temel mod\u00fcller aras\u0131nda erken d\u00f6nem bir ileti\u015fim sistemi olu\u015ftururlar.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\" translation-block\"><strong>Protokol\u00fc destekleyen Launch OBD-II adapt\u00f6rleri:<\/strong><br>DBScar IV, DBScar V, DBScar VII<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\" translation-block\"><strong>Protokol\u00fc destekleyen ThinkDiag cihazlar\u0131:<\/strong><br>ThinkDiag 2<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\" translation-block\"><strong>Protokol\u00fc destekleyen Ediag cihazlar\u0131:<\/strong><br>Ediag Plus, Ediag Elite<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"430\" height=\"430\" src=\"https:\/\/diagzone.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/image-32.jpeg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-3735\" srcset=\"https:\/\/diagzone.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/image-32.jpeg 430w, https:\/\/diagzone.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/image-32-300x300.jpeg 300w, https:\/\/diagzone.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/image-32-150x150.jpeg 150w, https:\/\/diagzone.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/image-32-100x100.jpeg 100w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 430px) 100vw, 430px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"421\" height=\"421\" src=\"https:\/\/diagzone.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/image-33.jpeg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-3736\" srcset=\"https:\/\/diagzone.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/image-33.jpeg 421w, https:\/\/diagzone.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/image-33-300x300.jpeg 300w, https:\/\/diagzone.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/image-33-150x150.jpeg 150w, https:\/\/diagzone.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/image-33-100x100.jpeg 100w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 421px) 100vw, 421px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\" translation-block\"><strong>Protokol taraf\u0131ndan desteklenen ara\u00e7 t\u00fcrleri ve markalar:<br><\/strong>J1939 protokol\u00fcn\u00fcn yayg\u0131n olarak benimsenmesinden \u00f6nce \u00fcretilmi\u015f eski a\u011f\u0131r ticari ara\u00e7lar, otob\u00fcsler ve i\u015f makineleri; Volvo Trucks, Mack, Freightliner, Kenworth, Peterbilt, Cummins, Caterpillar ve John Deere d\u00e2hil.<br>Bu protokol, seri ileti\u015fim (RS-485) kullan\u0131r ve eski HD sistemlerde ECU mod\u00fclleri aras\u0131nda te\u015fhis verilerinin payla\u015f\u0131lmas\u0131n\u0131 sa\u011flar.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>J1708 \/ J1587 Protokollerinin Avantajlar\u0131<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Basit veri yap\u0131s\u0131 ve kolay anla\u015f\u0131l\u0131r mesaj format\u0131<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Zorlu \u00e7al\u0131\u015fma ko\u015fullar\u0131nda g\u00fcvenilir ileti\u015fim<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Eski kamyonlar ve a\u011f\u0131r makinelerle uyumludur<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Uzun vadeli destek \u2014 h\u00e2len servis ve te\u015fhis ara\u00e7lar\u0131nda kullan\u0131lmaktad\u0131r<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Dezavantajlar ve s\u0131n\u0131rlamalar<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>D\u00fc\u015f\u00fck veri aktar\u0131m h\u0131z\u0131 (9600 bps) veri hacmini s\u0131n\u0131rlar<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>J1939 veya CAN FD\u2019de bulunan geli\u015fmi\u015f i\u015flevler desteklenmez<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Modern te\u015fhis sistemleriyle s\u0131n\u0131rl\u0131 uyumluluk<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Modern CAN ve Ethernet protokolleriyle kademeli olarak de\u011fi\u015ftirilmektedir<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>J1708 \/ J1587 Protokollerinin Kullan\u0131m\u0131<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Bu protokoller, 1980\u2019lerin sonlar\u0131ndan 2000\u2019lerin ba\u015flar\u0131na kadar \u00fcretilmi\u015f kamyonlarda, otob\u00fcslerde, in\u015faat ve tar\u0131m makinelerinde kullan\u0131lm\u0131\u015ft\u0131r. Temel olarak motor, \u015fanz\u0131man, fren sistemi ve g\u00f6sterge paneli bile\u015fenlerinin temel te\u015fhisi i\u00e7in kullan\u0131l\u0131r.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Sonu\u00e7<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>J1708 ve J1587, modern ileti\u015fim standartlar\u0131na k\u0131yasla g\u00fcn\u00fcm\u00fczde eski olarak kabul edilse de, eski ara\u00e7 ve makinelerin bak\u0131m ve te\u015fhisinde h\u00e2l\u00e2 kritik bir rol oynamaktad\u0131r. Basit yap\u0131lar\u0131 ve kan\u0131tlanm\u0131\u015f g\u00fcvenilirlikleri, onlar\u0131 ta\u015f\u0131mac\u0131l\u0131k ve end\u00fcstriyel uygulamalardaki elektronik sistemlerin tarihinde \u00f6nemli bir par\u00e7a h\u00e2line getirmektedir.<\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>SAE J1708 and SAE J1587 are legacy communication protocols designed for heavy commercial vehicles and construction machinery produced before the introduction of modern CAN-based systems (J1939). Although partially outdated today, they are still widely used in many diagnostic and service applications due to the large number of older vehicles still in operation. 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